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How Life Can Fall Apart So Quickly

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life fall apart quicklyDo you listen to podcasts? I think it is a great way to catch up on current events, hear some stories, and learn something interesting. I usually listen to podcasts when I’m working out at the gym or when I’m driving. Here is my podcast list.

  • This American Life – Great stories, but not many new shows these days.
  • Planet Money – I love Planet Money! I got quite a few blog ideas from this entertaining economic podcast.
  • Serial – They spend the season following one story. The first season was great, but I did not like the 2nd The Bowe Bergdahl story got old after a few episodes.
  • Wait Wait… Don’t Tell Me – NPR’s weekly current event quiz. The panelists are hilarious.
  • TED Radio Hour – This show doesn’t live up to its potential for some reason.
  • My Wife Quit Her Job Podcast by Steve Chou – Great podcast for online entrepreneurs. Steve is my hero.
  • Snap Judgment – Story telling with a beat. This one is a mixed bag. Some stories are great, some not so great.
  • Embedded – This is a new podcast. The show takes a story from the news and goes deep.

The latest story on Embedded is what I want to talk about today. This is a story about Opana addiction, an opiate prescription drug. I heard that we have a prescription drug abuse problem in the United States, but I didn’t know the extent of it. I had no idea that drug overdoses cause more death than car accidents. This is a huge problem that affects many lives.

The scary part of the story is how quickly a life can fall apart. Joy was a nurse and she injured her back on the job. She was prescribed painkillers and got hooked. Less than a year later she was a homeless junkie. Yikes! Here it is in her words.

I had a home. I had a car. A house full of furniture, a lot of nice stuff, big sectional sofa, glass coffee table, and a real heavy cherry dinette set. Washer and dryer, flat screen TVs. I had 3 flat screen TVs, Playstation 3, Wii, tablets, name it. We had it all.

She ran out of prescription and started buying pills on the street. Eventually, she moved on to injecting the drug. Whoa, that’s a huge step from taking it orally to injecting the drug. Joy was a nurse and she knew better, but I guess she couldn’t stop herself. Apparently, the drug gives you a big high if you snort or inject it. Much better than heroin as one of the drug abusers put it.

Be Vigilant with Drugs

This cautionary tale shows that life is tenuous and it can fall apart very quickly if you aren’t vigilant. Drug abuse can very quickly sabotage your life and finance. Luckily, I never had to take strong pain medication. Now that I know more about prescription drug abuse, I’ll be even more cautious and avoid opiate drug as much as possible. Ruining your life isn’t worth the momentary high. Once you get addicted, you’re a slave to the drug. The junkies on the show would do anything to get another pill. It sounds pretty crazy.

Personally, I’m pretty sure I can avoid drug abuse. I’m 42 and I’m not addicted to any drugs so I think I can keep it together. I’m actually more worried about my kid. A lot of kids are abusing prescription drugs to feel good, gain an edge in school, or to lose weight. Once you start down that path, it’d be very difficult to recover. We’ll need to discuss this with our kid when he is older and make sure he understands the consequences of using drugs. We see a lot of homeless people every day so he already knows life isn’t easy for everybody.

Drug abuse is one thing that can ruin your life very quickly. What are some other problems that we need to avoid? Anyone care to share their experience with prescription drug abuse?

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  • Rob @ Money Nomad May 14, 2016, 9:37 pm

    Thanks for sharing such a thoughtful post. My wife and I were just talking about how fast addiction can ruin your finances – whether that’s subscription drugs, alcohol, or shopping.

    It’s very important to watch what you take. Thanks for this reminder!

  • PatientWealthBuilder May 14, 2016, 7:36 pm

    This is one reason why I asked my wife to flush the remaining percocet down the toilet after she was prescribed some after giving birth. We have a lot of kids so she had a bit of it stored up “just in case.” But really – just in case what? If there is a need for more pain medication we can go back and get more prescribed. Don’t just keep it around because it is a temptation. Anyone can become addicted. Its not just people on skid row. These are soccer moms and hard-working fathers. People get a little stressed and these opiates are a welcome escape. Deal with your problems honestly and directly. If you have problems tell friends and family and ask for advice – don’t turn to drugs.

    • retirebyforty May 16, 2016, 10:14 am

      Good call. If you have any kids around, that’s the safest thing to do. Kids like to experiment and you never know what they are going to do.

  • James May 14, 2016, 7:30 pm

    I would add, it isn’t just physical pain, but psychological pain that different people experience which leads to substance abuse. Chronic depression, boredom, or other mental illness are all a contributing factor.

    As for seemingly good life to fall apart, that can happen without drugs any day. Tragic events doesn’t discriminate unfortunately, so make the best the time you have.

    • retirebyforty May 16, 2016, 10:15 am

      I think therapy is a much better way to deal with mental health. Unless your chemical is really out of balance..

  • [email protected] May 14, 2016, 10:12 am

    Like In Pain above, I have a different perspective. I’ve had chronic and severe pain for more than 20 years and I find the opiate panic that is being pushed today is appalling and irresponsible. It focuses on entirely the wrong thing, and makes opiate drug users out to be addicts without distinguishing between opiate drug users who also abuse Street drugs and those who use them regularly and responsibly because we do not have any other way to find relief from pain.

    One of the major problems is that people hear “pain” and equate it to different levels of pain. One person thinks of it like stubbing your toe, another thinks of it as cutting hour hand cooking, yet another thinks of it as a severe injury. Most who don’t live with it never consider how life altering it is for that pain to NEVER END.

    Imagine having a flu, with the debilitating fatigue, fever, and aches and pains. And also a broken limb. That’s how I feel every single day, on good days. On bad days, pain feels like my bones, muscles, and skin are all on fire and movement exacerbates it. I can’t eat, sleep, or move.

    Can you blame us for taking meds to alleviate that pain? How can physicians blithely call it addiction when using them may be the only thing that allows us to maintain basic life functions?

    I have the “luxury” of avoiding the major drygs until the pain is so severe it is at least as bad as childbirth. I’m one of the luckier ones.

    Speaking of childbirth, the recent changes in DEA regulations are making it nearly impossible for people to get the meds they need to function and that’s a result of their pushing this opioid panic.

    Two weeks after giving birth, and having a 3rd degree tear so I was in extra constant pain with a newborn, my OB could only write a prescription for me to pick up. I had to go pick that up and walk it down 4 flights to the pharmacy and get that refilled. They couldn’t send the prescription directly tor he pharmacy anymore. For someone whose doctors aren’t responsive, you might have to wait all day to get a prescription written up, they won’t do it on email or phone request. For others, they’re being required to have an appointment every single time they need a refill and the doctors are refusing to write up more than a few days of prescription at a time. None of this serves patient care.

    How about, instead of making chronic pain patients into a political football, we consider addressing the real problem: pain. If we weren’t in constant and unrelenting pain, I can assure everyone, we wouldn’t want or need to use drugs.

    We need those prescription drugs now so we can function but frankly, they’re a poor solution because they simply do not work that well. It’s just, sadly, the best we have in a crappy situation. Personally I would love to do more than just “function”, I would be able to do (even more) amazing things if I were free from pain.

    There’s an economic component to this as well if people aren’t convinced on a humane level. We’re losing a ton of productivity to pain. Every single person who lives in pain every single day could be orders of magnitude more productive. I’ve been in terrible pain for most of my life and I’ve done pretty well but I know it’s nothing compared to what I could be doing if I didn’t have to carry my body weight in bricks of pain everyday.

    • retirebyforty May 14, 2016, 11:45 am

      Thank you for your perspective. You are a responsible person and used the medication the right way. Unfortunately, many people aren’t as responsible and that’s causing the current opiate issue.
      I’m sorry to hear about your pain. Have you tried some other alternatives? It sounds like you’ve developed tolerance to opiates now. I heard marijuana might be an alternative if you live in a state with medical marijuana. Hopefully, we’ll be able to develop better pain medication in the future. Please take care of yourself.

      • Revanche @ A Gai Shan Life May 16, 2016, 6:17 pm

        Honestly, I think “irresponsible” use is still an oversimplification of the problem. It’s one aspect of many including poor physician training and practices (like physicians who make up their own arbitrary guidelines based on bias and anecdotes instead of looking at evidence based literature), lack of better alternatives to treat temporary and chronic pain problems appropriately.

        Myself, I lived in excruciating pain for more than ten years before a single doctor would even acknowledge that it was possible that I was experiencing the problem, suggesting that I was lying about it. I learned to survive but that’s no way to live. As for alternatives – I know MMJ works for some people but it’s not an option for me. I’ve tried everything else that wouldn’t cause more problems than it solves, though that describes opiates in my case as well! So we do our best with what we have but it’s not a solution.

        • retirebyforty May 16, 2016, 10:00 pm

          Mrs. RB40 has mild Lupus and she had a lot of problems before it was finally diagnosed. It’s under control now, but she was having a terrible time for a while. Nobody know how they’ll deal with problems until they go through it themselves. Best wishes.

  • Dividendsdownunder May 14, 2016, 7:47 am

    Having the ability to fix one thing, doesn’t mean there aren’t any side effects or doesn’t cause something else.

    Alcohol and other things that cause you to not be who are you are one of the worst. Dangerous.

    Tristan

  • Thuy May 13, 2016, 2:37 pm

    Poor impulse control leads to all sorts of problems. People with good self control and the ability to delay gratification are more successful. The Marshmallow experiment is a psychological study showing kids that were able to delay gratification ie wait for a 2nd marshmallow, were more successful in life.

    Prior to quitting my job to stay home with my toddler, I worked as a physician assistant (PA-C) for 5 years in chronic pain and addiction. A lot of addiction patients I worked with had poor impulse control and mental health issues. Sobriety isn’t simply a matter of will power though. Addiction is a chronic disease and relapse rates are high, 40-60%.

    Health providers generally don’t receive much training in prescribing opioid pain medications. Nor is every patient prescribed chronic pain medications addicted to them. I was seeing more and more patients who had been cut off from their chronic pain medications from providers who were unwilling to continue prescribing. It is going to take a lot of years to dig out of the mess.

    • retirebyforty May 14, 2016, 11:46 am

      Poor impulse control is a problem that can stay with you your whole life. Our kid has no impulse control at all and we’re trying to improve it. Hopefully, we can build it up a little at a time.
      Thank you for your comment

  • Stockbeard May 13, 2016, 2:06 pm

    Heavy subject today…

    Drugs Inc is also a good show on the subject. Shows the perspective of addicts, dealers, and people who fight drug addiction (law enforcment, doctors,…)

  • Steve May 13, 2016, 12:00 pm

    Heroin is an opioid pain killer; Heroine is a woman admired or idealized for her courage.

    • retirebyforty May 14, 2016, 11:46 am

      I fixed it. Thanks for the catch.

  • AW May 13, 2016, 9:25 am

    Great segue from podcasts to drugs. At first I was thinking this does not really apply to my life but life can change quickly and unexpectedly. It also makes me think retirees, including early retirees, might be more susceptible to excess alcohol and drug use… Retirement planning should include a healthy lifestyle plan, not just an income.
    Thanks for sharing.

  • Mr. Tako @ Mr. Tako Escapes May 13, 2016, 9:13 am

    Addiction can take many forms. Finding freedom from addiction is probably even more important than financial freedom.

    Over the years, I’ve known a variety of folks with different addictions. Pain Killers, Alcohol, Coffee, Cocaine, and other hard drugs. You know what? NONE of them were good with money.

    It could just be a coincidence, but I doubt it.

  • freebird May 13, 2016, 9:02 am

    A couple I can think of are gambling addiction and emotional control issues. That old movie “Lost in America” illustrates the first kind and has an ER angle to boot. I never saw the whole thing, just clips here and there, it looked kind of funny and sad.

    I’ve seen firsthand what extreme temper outbursts can do– they may be funny coming from a toddler but in a professional environment these can sideline you– or worse. These days with all the stories in the press about workplace violence, I can imagine what has to happen when people who work around you do not feel safe.

    Of course neither of these pack the wallop from the new breaking bad.

  • Jim @ Route To Retire May 13, 2016, 7:35 am

    I’m still new to podcasts – I’ve been addicted to BiggerPockets and have been listening to those to and from work everyday. I have a conference for work next week so just downloaded a handful of Planet Money podcasts for the flight – that seems pretty interesting.

    I guess on the prescription meds scene, I’ve been pretty lucky. I don’t really know anyone personally that’s had problems with this. Could it be possible that it’s not as prevalent where I live? Or maybe it’s just covered up and I haven’t seen it.

    I’m with you on the kid thing – I’m 40 and never did any drugs, so I’m not worried about myself. However, I’ll be having that conversation with my daughter as she gets older.

    — Jim

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 5:11 pm

      I will check Bigger Pockets. That’s about real estate investing, right? No money to invest at this time so it might not be useful for me. Planet Money is really good. It’s entertaining and informative.
      Yeah, I know enough to avoid drug. I hope our kid is as lucky as I was.

      • Jim @ Route To Retire May 14, 2016, 6:02 pm

        It is about real estate investing – even if you’re not looking to invest for the time being, it’s super informative. I’ve learned so much from these even on the tenant-management side though the bulk of it does revolve around buying.

        — Jim

  • Eric Bowlin May 13, 2016, 6:58 am

    As a Company Commander, I’ve had to remove a lot of heroin users who came up positive on random drug tests. It always boggled my mind how this happens!

    Over time I learned about how it happens. The VA prescribes veterans various pain meds or cocktails for joint pain, injuries, ptsd, or anything else related to our deployments. Eventually the injuries heal but they are now addicted to these drugs.

    Quality meds are so expensive and they spend their money on the street buying them, until they have no money left. Somehow they realize that heroin does nearly the exact same thing as their pills did, so they start taking it.

    Once they come up hot on a test their careers are done too and they lose most of their benefits… Then their lives are ruined. It’s so sad

    I had a slight injury and a non VA doctor tried to prescribe some strong meds for it, and I had to refuse a half dozen times… I can’t imagine how easy it is for an uninformed person to just get hooked on this crap so easily.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 5:09 pm

      Thank you for your input. It doesn’t seem worth it to avoid short term pain only to get addicted. Hopefully, we find a better way to manage pain in the future. Doctors need to reform the way they prescribe drugs.

  • Mike H. May 13, 2016, 6:43 am

    Prescription drugs are no joke. As someone who was prescribed Vicodin after a minor medical procedure, I can attest to how much of a wallop it packs (and that’s one of the more tame opioids). I can understand how some people can get addicted.

    The underlying message here is how easy it is for something other than our own wellbeing to become a priority. Some people spend all of their money on drugs, or gambling, or expensive household items (yes, redecorating can be a psychological addiction). Some people date/marry a person who spends money recklessly. It’s easy for a long-term financial plan to get lost if something else offers a short-term feel-good payout.

  • connie May 13, 2016, 6:29 am

    I am a nurse and have had so many surgerys to keep me out of pain, and I was prescribed medications 60 Percocet a month for pain, I have 3 herniated discs that impinge on nerves, I was getting ready for another surgery, shoulder this time and that’s when I wrote in here about quiting my job, pills only took pain away for an hour, and I didn’t want to be dependant on them, so I took the plunge and quit to take care of me, the pain isn’t as bad since I quit working, when I have bad flare ups I rest,ice,heat and massage, I figure out was to get relief without a pill, I haven’t taken a pain pill in over a year, I wasn’t addicted to them, but could easily just continued to pop pills, also I have a son who is 30 and I found out last year he has been a heroin addict for 4 years, he lost his best friend to sucide -and my son said he was either going to shoot himself or stick a needle in his arm, he just didn’t want to feel the pain, and now my son has nothing…living on the streets, has lost everything and wont get help…I know pain and pain pills are good for right after surgery and cancer, but we really do need how to deal with pain a lot differently, it is very easy to pop a pill than to go get a massage, ice, rest,heat, continue stretching and working on techniques that make you feel better, I know I will get a lot of back lash, but here I am doing what I need to do to not be in pain and to do it without meds…so far for the last year it is working, don’t get me wrong, there are days the pain is so bad, that i just want to curl in a ball and cry, but i tell myself i can get thru it…and mentally work with tools i have learned to get me thru…i don’t want to lose everything we worked so hard for over craziness of addiction….

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 5:06 pm

      I’m really glad you found a way to relief the pain without the pill. Quitting was the right decision for you. Things would have only worsen if you kept going the way you were.
      Sorry about your son. I hope he find a way to turn things around. That’s a hard life.
      Good job managing your pain.

  • In Pain May 13, 2016, 6:24 am

    I’ll give you another perspective. My wife was diagnosed in 2011 with a rare disease. Complex regional pain syndrome/reflex sympathetic dystrophy. Google that. We went to the best doctors in Northern California (UC San Francisco, Stanford Medicine) and they were unable to initially diagnose it correctly and when they finally diagnosed it by exception, it was determined there is no cure. The disease causes unbelievable intense pain 24/7 and is completely disabling The drugs the docs prescribed don’t work or cause undesirable side effects. Percocet takes the edge off the pain for maybe an hour or an hour an a half and it’s back to the pain again. It doesn’t take the pain away, it’s continuous. Nothing ever will. She is unable to function without this med since other pain meds don’t work at all. I’ve seen her in tears and on the floor in pain way too many times. The difficulty is there is no reliable way to measure pain levels. One person’s level 5 pain might be another person’s level 8 pain and each person responds to meds differently. She was working full time before 2011 and then this happens. Completely unpredictable. Life fell apart quickly, she can’t sleep a straight 4-6 hours because of the pain either.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 5:01 pm

      Sorry to hear about your wife. Have you tried alternatives like marijuana? That sounds less addicting that opiates, but I don’t really know.

  • [email protected] May 13, 2016, 6:22 am

    Does coffee count as an addiction? 🙂

    Joking aside, I feel very fortunate to have avoided addictions in my life. I do tend to have an addictive personality, but I find myself addicted to healthy habits, such as running.

    When I recently had several wisdom teeth extracted via oral surgery, I noticed I was prescribed much weaker painkillers than for past procedures. I had to supplement with maximum doses of Advil, but I didn’t mind, as that made my pain manageable enough. It is good that the general medical community is trying to get a handle on this problem.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 4:58 pm

      It is good that the medical providers are rethinking strong prescription drugs. Some pain is fine especially if it is temporary. There is no point avoiding temporary pain if you get addicted in the long term.

  • Mike Drak May 13, 2016, 5:59 am

    I find it interesting to note that the most prosperous country in the world is also the most medicated. People are working way to hard, they are stressed out and running on empty all in the pursuit of more. Many have lost hope, the American dream for many has turned into a nightmare and they use drugs, alcohol etc. to help numb the pain so that they can survive another day. Reminds me of something out of a Mad Max movie. But there is hope I noticed in my wife’s doctors office a sign saying that they will not prescribe certain drugs. This website also gives hope and direction, how to break away from the herd and live life on your own terms.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 4:57 pm

      It is crazy how much problems we are having. Seems like so many people are unhappy with their lives. That’s good about drug restriction. Opiates should only be reserved for the worst cases.

  • Apathy Ends May 13, 2016, 5:53 am

    I watched some pretty smart people get sucked into abusing pain killers, it doesn’t take very long and it takes years to recover.

    Interesting statistics in Physian on FIREs comment as well

  • Physician on FIRE May 13, 2016, 5:17 am

    Opioid addiction has become a huge problem in the United States in the last 2 decades. There was a “pain is the 5th vital sign” campaign that started in the late 1990s. Administrators now tie physician’s salaries to patient satisfaction and survey scores. The system makes it difficult to say No to patients.

    CNN rann a series about the epidemic on television and its website this week. It’s been a hot topic on KevinMD.com lately. States have been setting up systems to identify patients who are shopping around at multiple facilities for narcotics, but the systems are underutilized and they don’t necessarily communicate with one another.

    A subset of physicians have been part of the problem, and I see the medical community as a whole recognizing the issue. Something like 75% of the opioids in the world are consumed here, where 5% of the world lives. I don’t think we’re experiencing 75% of the world’s pain. I hope to see this rising addiction trend reversed, but it’s going to take the cooperation of all interested parties, including government regulators, pharmaceutical companies, physicians, and patients.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 4:54 pm

      Hopefully, we can turn it around at some point. Maybe doctors need to prescribe opiates only when the pain is really bad. Stick with lesser strength pills for lesser issues. Some pain should be acceptable.

    • Ramona @ Personal Finance Today May 15, 2016, 3:59 am

      Oh my, 75% of the opioids? This is absolutely huge.

      We don’t have this problem in my country (Romania), the main issue is that hospitals are understaffed and old/dirty. We had a lot of people die from various infections taken from the hospitals.

      Right now there’s a huge scandal with a company that was selling (hugely overpriced) disinfectants, that were also diluted. Even the ones used by surgeons to clean their hands. The Health Minister was fired and there’s still a huge scandal.

      In more than a decade NO ONE tested these substances and thousands (maybe tens of thousands) of people died from something that could have been easily prevented.

  • Pennypincher May 13, 2016, 4:49 am

    I’ll give you my perspective after many decades on this planet. We are United Drugs of America. Every night on the evening news, every commercial is about drugs. Take this drug, take that one. Ask your doctor if (this drug) is right for you. Drug planet! Then, sure enough, the lawsuits start flying from people dying from these drugs, or becoming disabled.
    Look at Michael Jackson and dozens of other great talents. They had “Dr. Yes” handing out prescriptions like candy. Pretty sure that Prince died the same way, not yet proven.
    Drug companies and Doctors are closely connected. I know for a fact a doctor in our area was writing prescriptions for everything/everyone. Why? Well….he had 6 kids to get through college and guess what? He was making $$ off of writing these prescriptions. Drugs w/serious side effects, when perhaps a inexpensive OTC (over the counter) drug would had solved the problem. You see, the drug companies, all the middlemen, the pharma salesmen I know and see making big bucks, and the doctors are all tied into the money machine. And big money it is. Gee, isn’t everyone in this country on drugs???? Find someone who doesn’t take a prescription.
    One more thing- When there are these massive shootings, crazy violent standoffs, awful crimes of senseless deaths that make the daily news- am I the only one asking, Gee was that disturbed person on prescription drugs? If so what drugs and how many? Did they suddenly stop taking these drugs? Was a doctor truly supervising them? This horrific behavior is a side effect of suddenly stopping these drugs in many cases. But no one is questioning this. It’s the irresponsible distributing of these drugs to people, by Pharma using people as guinea pigs, doctors (some, not all) walking around w/a prescription pad and writing prescriptions all day, perhaps NOT following up w/the patients. Not really monitoring their patients closely enough. I have witnessed this many times. No one cares about your health and well being more than you. Stay informed, ask the tough questions. People get hooked, ruin their lives, and the lives around them, possibly die. And guess who picks up the pieces? The taxpayers.
    Yes, the United Drugs of America.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 4:52 pm

      Thanks for sharing. I think Prince is another victim too. Opiates are too addicting. We need to find other alternatives to help with pain. Fortunately, I don’t have to take many drugs and hope to stay that way for a long time.

  • Lynn May 13, 2016, 4:45 am

    This is incredibly true. One of my closest friends from high school just had her child hit “rock bottom”. In desperation, he went in to a hospital ER and committed armed robbery looking for these opiates. Luckily no one was hurt but he is looking at a long prison sentence (he didn’t have real weapons – but they rightfully thought he did). And this is a “life sentence” (addiction) for these individuals and families.These are outstanding people who have cared deeply for this child and had him in multiple treatment programs, counseling, etc. It can happen to anyone. We have teens and we talk about it at home but I am sure my friends did too…. As far as other problems go, we talk a lot about credit cards and that kind of debt too and how it can ruin your life. Not at all the same kind of ruin as the addiction, but still a big problem.

    • retirebyforty May 13, 2016, 4:50 pm

      Oh wow, that’s crazy. Sorry to hear about the kid and I hope he can turn it around. It sounds really hard, though. Better to avoid going down that path in the first place.

  • The Green Swan May 13, 2016, 4:11 am

    First, that is a good list of podcasts. I listen to Planet Money as well. If you like that you’d also want to check out Freakonomics Radio podcast.

    Second, tough message in today’s post but one that people need to learn more about. I recently watch a documentary on Netflix about prescription drug abuse called Prescription Thugs. I’d definitely recommend watching.

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